5 responses to “Did Jesus die?”

  2. when the coming of some Previous prophet is mentioned it means that a new prophet will come who will have similarities with the previous prophet.

    It is mentioned in Malachi 4:5
    “Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD.”

    But John came instead of Elijah. It is mentioned in Metthew 11:4
    “And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come”

    As Jews were told Eli’jah will come but it was the JOHN who came, Similarly when Holy prophet(p.b.u.h) prophecised that Jesus will descend, it means that some other prophet will come.

    kindly explain this point.

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  3. First of all, relying on the Bible is a big mistake. Bible is of no relevance to the Muslims.

    Secondly, Jesus (peace be upon him) is Jesus and he is also Messiah. Therefore, John is John and also Elijah.

    Look at the meanings of the words. Buddhist scriptures speak of Buddha Maitreya who is Prophet Muhammad but the name is different in the languages. The language of the OT is Hebrew translated from Greek whereas the language of NT is Greek whereas the language of Jesus and John was Aramaic. Issa is Aramaic is Issaw!

    Lastly, the Ahadith do not speak of Jesus to come but speak of Jesus to return/descend. These terms are explained in the article above.

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  4. [Therefore, John is John and also Elijah]

    Actually John and Elijah were two different prophets. Maitreya and Muhammad have same meaning, and they refer to same person, but this is not the case with John and Elijah as they were two different persons.

    Jews rejected John because they thought Elijah will descend, and they were waiting for Elijah who was prophecised in their scriptures:

    Milachi 4:5 “Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD.”

    John himself admitted that he was not Elijah.

    John 1:21 They asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” And he said, “I am not.”

    But he was sent in place of Elijah:

    Matthew 11:14 “And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come.”

    This issue is also mentioned here:

    Mark 9:11 They asked Him, saying, “Why is it that the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”

    Mark 9:13 “But I say to you that Elijah has indeed come, and they did to him whatever they wished, just as it is written of him.”

    So, the point is, according to OT, Elijah was a prophet who was raised up, then it was mentioned that he will descend, but John came in place of Elijah, that’s why jews rejected him.

    Now, same is the case with jesus, he was raised up according to quran, it is also mentioned in quran and hadith that he will descend, why can’t a new prophet come in place of him just like John came in place of Elijah. (Also keep in mind Holy prophet(p.b.u.h) prophecised that muslims will resemble like jews)

    I personally believe in the second coming of the same jesus(p.b.u.h), and I agree with all your points, but I have this misconception in my mind, hopefully, you will remove it.

    P.S Even if I prove my point, this will not help qadianies/Ahmadies to prove their point that Mirza was a prophet. No doubt, he was a grand fabricator, liar and imposter.

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  5. *Actually John and Elijah were two different prophets.*

    The Jews were waiting for three people namely Elijah, Messiah and the Prophet. When they asked Jesus about it, he said that Elijah has already come and gone.

    You are relying on the bible for your points and that is a terrible thing. Here are the stories of Prophets in tafsir ibne Kathir:

    ” http://www.islamawareness.net/Prophets/ ”

    * Jews rejected John because they thought Elijah will descend, and they were waiting for Elijah who was prophecised in their scriptures:

    Milachi 4:5 “Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD.” *

    The books of the jews were all man-made. They had written it from memory after the destruction of Jerusalem and this corruption happened several times. Just rely on Islamic sources in the link I gave above. They must have mixed him with Jesus who was to ascend and then descend and this is what they did.

    * John himself admitted that he was not Elijah.

    John 1:21 They asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” And he said, “I am not.” *

    The Jews asked Jesus the same question as to whether he was the Messiah, he replied that he was not. This clearly shows the massive corruption in the man-made bibles. What appears is that the jews called all big prophets as messiah and for that he declined to be him (Prophet Muhammad [s.A.a.w]).

    * So, the point is, according to OT, Elijah was a prophet who was raised up, then it was mentioned that he will descend, but John came in place of Elijah, that’s why jews rejected him. *

    Well this contradicts doesn’t it? At one place John declines to be Elijah but is said to be a replacement. This is just an attack towards God that He keeps changing mind.

    The jewish books were all man-made with some part from God but most of it was a lie. They wrote it from memory but later kept on changing it (Jeremiah 8:8). What appears to be the case is that they must have confused these three Prophets all together.

    If you look at the main-page and the article “Who is the Prophet?” you will see that three personalities were expected but if you ask jews today, they will say that they were only waiting for one and that is Messiah. The jews themselves do not know! Their books were written over a period of thousands of years and just like now they reject the other two out of three, they definitely must have made erros in understanding over those thousands of years.

    Qadianis cannot rely on the bible as it is of no worht to the Muslims. The Gospel of Barnabas is the only one acceptable to the Muslims and I suggest you read it too. Tafsir ibne Kathir is conclusive.

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